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Mikael Waernlund's avatar

Isn't there a story here about a weight loss drug taking patient fainting?

Dan Diamond's avatar

I thought that was going to get a lot more attention, too! I think it also helps explain why Eli Lilly has been hesitant to confirm his identity, beyond saying he was their guest.

Had he not collapsed, he would likely have gotten a shout-out from the Eli Lilly CEO, who had just begun to speak.

Shelli Koszdin's avatar

He could have fainted because of low blood sugar. These drugs were originally approved for diabetes. He could have given himself the wrong dose or also been taking other diabetes meds that lower blood sugar. These drugs can cause dizziness. These are known risks. Or it could be he just fainted for some other reason.

Mrs. S's avatar

True. And lunch could have been delayed, or skipped, something out of his control. I wish him well and a speedy recovery.

Amy Keyishian / Madfoot's avatar

You guys could have taken a lesson from this essay and done the slightest bit of research on how glp-1s work. But why do that when you can run your mouth and be the first bunch of comments?

Shelli Koszdin's avatar

What are you talking about?

Mike Davis's avatar

The desire to be "first" now outweighs the desire to be accurate. Sad for journalism. But just one of many reasons journalism continues to take hits.

The Broken Poet™️'s avatar

Launching appetite suppressant drugs the same week they cut access to food is diabolical -the broken poet

Constance's avatar

In all the focus on this man apparently fainting an important point is being missed. They may be "lowering " the price to $150 a month but its estimated to cost $5 to make it. And some asked why RFK left the room. He's not a doctor.

Mrs. S's avatar

Rfkjr was afraid he would catch something.

Tim Karr's avatar

Thanks for this corrective. Another prevailing social-media theme related to the incident were comments about RFK Jr's rapid exit from the scene immediately after the man crumples to the floor. Most commenters (in Blusesky at least) described him as fleeing the room out of fear for his own welfare. The White House subsequently said that RFK left the room to seek medical assistance for the man. Honestly, I'm not sure whom to believe.

Constance's avatar

And let's not forget that he's not a doctor so there was no need for him. I'm not apologizing for RFKs lethal ideology. but let's be real

Joan M Brenner's avatar

Not sure too why the fact that these companies “Lowering” the price of weightloss drugs is somehow worth a pat on the back, while there’s so many more important drugs that are still way overpriced.

Bruce Reich's avatar

Why would you expect that that entire job to be done instantly?

vandalii's avatar

Funny thing about AI - only as reliable as the information fed to it. Grok bought the social media line all the way. "Danger, Will Robinson!"

LinuxFreak's avatar

AI is providing many excellent examples of the old computing truism: Garbage In, Garbage Out (GIGO)

Danny's avatar

This wasn't AI.. Trump's lack of response or caring for anyone else is typical for him. He would have displayed concern or sone kind of human response if that video was AI

Bruce Reich's avatar

You couldn't win a debate with a MAGA like me if your life depended on it. President Trump could out-work you into the ground.

Danny's avatar

The president's lack of a normal human response to someone that was having a medical event or emergency was completely appalling. This doesn't make him appear tough. It makes him appear callous, without an ounce of a soul. This makes the U S look weaker than ever before.

Carmine Pescatore's avatar

I got great information years ago on how to process a news flash. Don’t believe the first ten versions that you hear. Everyone wants to be first with the story.

Did anyone post that he quickly recovered?

Laura Meckler's avatar

Actually this is an example of where journalism corrected the record. Yay for journalism!

S. Mischke's avatar

Actually, journalism often does, but it is not a "featured" item. This one was not easy to get to!

Elizabeth Gaucher's avatar

Reminds me of a local Facebook episode, in which someone posted that dogs are not permitted in the town park, and SEVERAL other people argued that they were because 1) they had seen them in the park before, and 2) "it says so on the website." Except "the website" was just a crowd sourced Google review of the park in which people were saying the park was a great place to take your dog. #bewaretheinterwebs #thankGodforrealjournalists #RIPcriticalthinking

Cheesefrog's avatar

It may have been from standing too long. I have that reaction too. I take Mounjaro (for diabetes) and the only side effect I've had is temporary instances of naseua.

Susan de Havilland's avatar

... and I came here thinking that I'd be wrong in believing that JFK ran away, and that Trump didn't notice anything.

Dear Bubbie's avatar

Thank you for sharing the truth and I'm glad to hear the man recovered. Still - the absolute irony in the patient falling ill who takes the drug that they are touting. And we all thought Pres. Trump falling asleep during the description of the GLP-1's was the story.

Bruce Reich's avatar

"Trump falling asleep ....." He works 14 hours/day, even on weekends. He doesn't even sleep on his long Air Force 1 flights. You don't know what you're talking about.

Dear Bubbie's avatar

He works very hard on the golf course and at Mar-A-Lago. As for not sleeping on the Air Force 1 flights. . .how do YOU know? Someone told you? Like Fox News? Newsmax?

Bruce Reich's avatar

Uninformed gibberish. I've heard my info from many news sources including Fox, and a reporter who said they didn't get sleep on AF1 because Trump never sleeps. Even the ballroom project is 100% privately funded. Again ..... you don't know what you're talking about. Go ahead an wallow in your fake beliefs.

Dear Bubbie's avatar

I'm embarrassed and saddened for you.

Danny's avatar

His teenage staffers work 14 hours a day playing around with memes while the country is falling a part. Trump is an 80 yr old sociopath with blood lust. Little girls used to get him off, now it's killing as many people as possible is his new kink or fetish.

Cynthia's avatar

As far as I am concerned it was a human being that collapsed!

Danny's avatar

It was also an inhuman president that shown no concern.

Atanacio Luna's avatar

I am here to see if Substack offers an alternative.

Atanacio Luna's avatar

The problem is the linearity of communication. Digital capability and, now, data sculpting (AI) should enable global information construction and propagation. We still think that only direct replies count. It's like the game "pass it on" on a fanning thread. Each node adds errors—exaggeration or lies —to expedite and empower propagation.

I'm correcting a graduate symposium manuscript that the UCI professor never published. He saw the problem back in the 50s and tried to teach us his solution in the late 70s and early 80s. I still feel he had a great perception.